Sidekicks were made to go with the Radiance Centerpiece but are great decorative coaster that stand alone.You should have enough thread from 2 balls of the Artiste 400 yard balls to creat the Radiance centerpiece doily and 2 of the Sidekicks coasters. The first 3 rounds are 1 1/2’’. This pattern was tested Cille Heckenbach.